Worst foreign Russia journalist

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  1. Alexander Mercouris

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    I would classify people like Gideon Rachman and Peter Oborne as basically very good journalists who write only occasionally about Russia but when they do simply follow the conventional wisdom about Russia. In other words they serve as part of the "echo" effect. The "noise" is created by others.

    Did anybody by the way see the utterly horrible article Ioffe wrote about Snowden and the terrible fate that awaits him in Russia? I have lost the link but I read it on Mark Sleboda's Facebook page.
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    I remember what triggered my reaction. It was last week. He said that Magnitsky was beaten to death. He is not the only one. Is it lazy or is it a campaign?
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    As to an award (and I have to say I either don't read these people or don't distinguish one from the other) may I propose
    The Coveted Porcelain Cup for Excellence in Russian Reporting

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    Dear Alexander,

    Re-Rachman. I remember reading a very good op-ed of his about the Snowden revelations on the FT. I think your assessment of him is accurate.

    Re-Ioffe. You mean the one about spending the rest of his life in an apartment with a scowling "Svetana"? What can I say. I'm sorry Julia had such a crappy personal experience during her Fulbright-funded sojourn in Moscow and wants to see others suffer like she did. :(
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    "Re-Ioffe. You mean the one about spending the rest of his life in an apartment with a scowling "Svetana"? What can I say. I'm sorry Julia had such a crappy personal experience during her Fulbright-funded sojourn in Moscow and wants to see others suffer like she did. :([/quote]"

    Yes!
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    Something that puzzles me about Ioffe's sojourn in the Evil Empire is this: I'm sure her grandmother lives in Moscow. I'm almost sure that she occasionally mentioned her in her scribblings.

    Yes, she does - or did: her grandmother may have died since she wrote this article, entitled: "In Soviet Russia, Storm Weathers You".

    Strange that: all the while that she was living in Russia, Ioffe thought she was in the USSR. She wrote the article 9 months ago on October 31, 2012: that is, 21 years after the Soviet Union had ceased to exist. She wrote of the summer 2010 forest fires in Russia, of something that clearly never ever happens in the USA. She said that the fires were "a direct result of an earlier reform when Putin slashed the number of forest rangers".

    Of course, the exceptionally long,dry and hot summer of that year and the number of empty beer and vodka bottles that boozers pitch in the undergrowth of Russian forests while they're eating shashlyk around campfires which are sometimes not fully doused when it's time to stagger off home had anything to do with the outbreak of the fires, nor had the fact that the massive peat bogs around Moscow are prone to spontaneous combustion during such long, hot and dry spells: it was all the fault of the Evil One. That goes without saying, doesn't it?

    But I digress. In comparing the 2010 the emergency services of what she believed was the Soviet Union with those of the eastern seaboard of the USA during hurricane "Sandy" in 2012 as she sat in a friend's Manhattan apartment, Ioffe writes: "But watching the city, state, and federal authorities respond to Sandy, I couldn’t help but recall that panicky, sucking feeling I had two summers ago as I scrambled to figure out whether and how to get my grandmother, who has heart failure, out of the city, and had nothing but guesswork to go on."

    So up to last year at least, her grandmother was living in the Evil Empire, aka the Soviet Union according to Ioffe.

    Has the woman no compassion? How cruel and heartless of her to leave an ancient forebear of hers in that hell on earth, about which, in "A Russian American's Uneasy Return to Moscow", she wrote: "Twenty years ago, on April 28, 1990, my parents — at 30 years old, just three years older than I am now — dropped their careers and their friends who gathered at the airport to sob, took their two little daughters and walked through passport control, relinquishing their citizenship forever. They took us away as a political statement about this nation’s chances of a bright future; to them, there would never be one."

    And they left grandma behind then, as did Ioffe again last year.

    Does Ioffe's grandma know something about Russia the Soviet Union that Julia Ioffe doesn't?
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    For example, here is Ioffe talking about Russia after she'd returned to the USA after enjoying a 3-year Fulbright scholarship in Russia: "Writer Julia Ioffe on Drinking Rituals and Surprising Friendships in 'Sharp-Elbowed' Moscow".

    She says that a New York friend and "Swiss-German" (does she mean a German speaking Swiss?) who visited her in Moscow and who was "very polite, very level-headed, even-keeled". And then by "day 10 of their visits, somebody in the Metro bumped into my Swiss-German friend. He, without dropping a beat, wheeled around and hurled a very, very loud expletive at her."

    Funny that. I've lived in Moscow for 20 years and have been jostled and bumped by Muscovites many a time in the metro, but I've never cussed at any of them.

    But that's what Julia says Russians do to you.

    It's so awful here!

    And this is an example of the thoughts of an objective "journalist" who reported from Moscow.
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    I wonder if anybody ever gets jostled and bumped on the New York subway?
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    I didn't. But it's got... other charms. :cool:

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    And despite her saying that Russia is a hostile and brutal place, she left her grandma there.
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    Leading light of the Western lie-peddlars, Edward Lucas, whose frantic Russophobic scribblings make Harding's look quite amateurish, gets a mention in this Komsomolskaya Pravda article as regards his spreading "disinformation", in that the sub-heading to the article reads: "Why has a British journalist launched disinformation concerning Yanukovich putting his signature to a commitment to join the Customs Union?"

    The KP journalist writes:

    Сотрудник влиятельного британского журнала The Economist Эдвард Лукас сообщил, что возвращавшийся из Китая домой через Россию и встретившийся в Сочи с Путиным президент Украины Виктор Янукович договорился о вступлении в Таможенный союз в обмен на финансовую помощь. Якобы эту информацию он получил из супернадежных источников. Правда, сообщение выглядит весьма сомнительно: «Слышал, что В.Янукович в Сочи сегодня подписал стратегическое соглашение с Россией, которое включает 5 млрд долл, в том числе предоплата, цена на газ в 200 долл. и соглашение о присоединении к Таможенному союзу». А чуть позже он же добавил в своем микроблоге: «Западные правительства шокированы» То есть слышал от кого-то что-то Лукас, а «западные правительства» уже шокированы! Наверное, они каждые полчаса ему звонят, чтобы знать, чем им надо быть шокированными.

    Впрочем, переговоры Януковича с Путиным действительно состоялись в Сочи, и сообщалось, что стороны обсуждали вопросы развития торгово-экономических связей и развития партнерских отношений. В принципе, перспективы присоединения к ТС могли бы обсуждаться, но вряд ли было принято столь радикальное решение, да еще в эти неспокойные в Украине дни.

    Надо сказать, что особой веры Лукасу не было. Хоть он и специализируется в своем издании на странах Балтии, СНГ и считается одним из ведущих специалистов по России в журнале, попадать пальцем в небо для него по этим вопросам стало уже привычкой. Последний раз он пророчил скорый уход «ослабленного Путина» из власти в результате «болотного» протеста. Кроме того, само упоминание о, например, СССР вызывает у этого господина ассоциации со страхом, ГУЛАГом, мрачными временами и т.д. Специфика воззрений этого «узкого профессионала», к тому же, дает основания полагать, что он будет готов использовать любую дезинформацию, чтобы ухудшить ситуацию в России или те же российско-украинские отношения. Как оказалось, так оно и было. Пресс-секретарь Путина Дмитрий Песков спустя несколько часов опроверг «утку» о выборе Януковича в пользу Таможенного союза и отметил, что вопрос о присоединении Украины к Таможенному союзу на встрече Путина с Януковичем даже не обсуждался. А предметом беседы были перспективы сотрудничества в финансово-кредитной сфере. В переводе на обычный русский - Янукович денег просил.


    [Edward Lucas, journalist for the influential British magazine "The Economist", has reported that President of the Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovich, whilst returning home from China via Russia has met Putin in Sochi and agreed to join the Customs Union in exchange for financial assistance. He allegedly received this information from ultra-reliable sources. In truth, however, the report looks very dubious: "I've heard that Yanukovich signed in Sochi today a strategic agreement with Russia, which involves $5 billion, including payments in advance, a gas price of $200, and an agreement on admittance to the Customs Union". And just a short while later he also added in his microblog: "Western governments are in shock". So Lucas heard something off someone, and "Western governments" are already in shock! I suppose they must call him every half-hour in order to find out what they need to be shocked about.

    As it happens, talks between Yanukovich and Putin really did take place in Sochi and it was reported that both sides discussed issues of trade and economic relations and the development of partnerships. In principle, the prospects of joining the CU could have been discussed, but it is hardly likely that such a radical decision was taken, even during these turbulent days for the Ukraine.

    It has to be admitted, though, that Lucas has not enjoyed any particular trust as regards what he writes. Although in the publication that he works for he specializes on the Baltics and the CIS and he is considered to be one of the leading Russian specialists in that magazine, creating fantasies out of thin air has become a habit for him. He last did this when he predicted a "weakened Putin" imminently losing his political power as a result of the Bolotnaya Square demonstration. Moreover, the very mention of the Soviet Union, for example, causes this gentleman to associate that term with fear, the gulag, dark and gloomy times etc. In addition, the specific views of this "strict professional" give reason to believe that he is prepared to use any misinformation in order to worsen the situation in Russia, and the same goes for Russian-Ukrainian relations. And it has turned out to be the same old story again. A few hours later, Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, refuted the "canard" about Yanukovich deciding in favour of joining the Customs Union and noted that the issue of the admittance of the Ukraine to the Customs Union was not even discussed during the meeting between Putin and Yanukovich, that the subject under discussion concerned the prospects for cooperation in the financial sphere. Translated into plain Russian: Yanukovich asked for money.]


    And in plain English: Lucas is a liar.

    (A super-reliable source told me that.)
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