Why don't I like Russian music?

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  1. José Moreira

    José Moreira High Commissar Staff Member

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    I'm trying to learn more about russian popular music, but I don't really love what I have found so far. One exception: I do love Igor Rasteryaev, this song in particular (maybe because I am a major fan of agro-machinery) :



    What should I listen to?
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    What are you into in general - classical, rock, folk music, chanson, Europop?
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    I'm a sucker for progressive rock, being a musician myself. A great Russian band within this particular genre is Extrovert, especially the album Разбудив Океан, but their other stuff don't sound bad either. In fact, I'd say they are among the worlds' best.
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    As a classic music buff I can hardly complain when it comes to Russian music. The field is amazing and limitless extending all the way from Glinka and Tchaikovsky to Gubaidulina today.

    One of the areas where the Russian contribution is underestimated is in the contribution to musical modernism. Mussorgsky had a profound interest on Debussy. I have recently been listening to some of the operas of Rimsky Korsakov (Snegurochka, Sadko, The Golden Cockerell, Mlada, the Tale of Tsar Saltan and the Invisible City of Kitezh) and the advanced nature of the musical language is extraordinary. It tends to get forgotten that Stravinsky (a Russian composer as he always insisted) was Rimsky Korsakov's pupil. The roots of the Rite of Spring are obviously there in Snegurochka. Moving further forward there is the extraordinary avant garde music of Scriabin (Skryabin?) and Roslavets. To get a sense of the extraordinary radicalism of early Twentieth Century Russian classical music, just consider this short little known Cantata "Seven, they are Seven" based on an ancient Sumerian inscription about the Seven Evil Gods, written by Prokofiev in 1917 during the Revolution and under the influence of its events.

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    A lot of mainstream Russian pop seems to have the same producer or group of producers. So it sounds rather similar. And the market is not very competitive. Each group or singer is targetted at a very particular niche. Pugachaev, Valeria, Rotary: Viagra, Fabrika etc.. The only time I hear anything I like is at live concerts. There is a good jazz rock club in Moscow called 16 Tonne that I like.
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    Oh yes, classical composers... Well, my favourite as far as Russia goes is Shostakovich. Of course, there is so much more as Russia has a very rich musical heritage as Mercouris points out. I myself quickly narrowed my taste down to late classical in general (late 1800's-today) though, and my Russian favourite became Shostakovich. I have a huge bunch of Soviet Melodiya mint LPs of Shostakovich' symphonies, symphonic poems etc. It sounds very "Soviet" and modern (in the classical music sense) but there is a lot there that is reminiscent of the darkest moments of late Romanticism, like certain brass- and timpani heavy Mahler works, Havergal Brians swift and hard hitting works etc, which I love.

    As far as contemporary Russian popular music goes, I really don't know. Apart from progressive hard rock-ish bands such as the aforementioned Extrovert, I don't listen to much of it. I don't think they're that "popular" anyway. They're more of a Russian version of other modern progressive rock bands populated by instrument virtuosos, such as Dream Theater, Spock's Beard and so on. Their main fans are probably musicians themselves, who listen to music in a slightly different way than most "casual" listeners do.

    Older Russian/Soviet progressive music works for me as well, like Akvarium. Great band.

    Hmmm, I do have to say that I quite like the rather crude but enjoyable stuff Leningrad puts out, though it's mat-heavy and not for the faint-hearted.
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    A lot of mainstream Russian pop seems to have the same producer or group of producers. So it sounds rather similar. And the market is not very competitive. Each group or singer is targetted at a very particular niche. Pugachaev, Valeria, Rotary: Viagra, Fabrika etc.. The only time I hear anything I like is at live concerts. There is a good jazz rock club in Moscow called 16 Tonne that I like.
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    That's true, although personally I'd be quite happy to never hear any 19th-century Russian music again. Too much Tchaikovsky & Co. on concert programs to this day. But hey, the broad audience likes it. 20th-century Russian composers are much more interesting, going up to the present day, as with Schnittke and Gubaidulina.

    On the other hand, Russia seems to be lacking in pre-19th century art music. I am not aware of any Russian counterparts to the likes of Palestrina, Byrd or Josquin Desprez. Doubtless there is some ecclesiastical reason for this, but I don't know what it is.

    Russian jazz and pop is an interesting subject, but mainly for sociological reasons, IMHO.
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    Inna Zhelannaya and her old group, The Farlanders, are long time favorites, and I still follow her latest work. Lost World Band, Sergei Starostin, Pelageya, some of their work, Theodor Bastard, Zventa Sventana, some of Deti Picasso, the electronic work of Anatoly Pereslegin. Moussorgsky still touches
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    The only pre 18th century Russian music I am at all familiar with is Church music. Some of it is very beautiful but to be frank I think the greatest Russian Orthodox Church music is 19th century and after and is written by the likes of Tchaikovsky and especially Rachmaninoff.
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    I am a finicky omnivorous: I don't mind about genres, but I like only the best of each. Is there a Tom Waits of chanson? Who is the Vitor Jara of Russian Folk? I can't say that I ever enjoyed Europop, but maybe some genius in Magnitogorsk can make good music out of it.
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    I tried, but I couldn't really like their music. They seem terribly busy with their instruments and I could't feel the emotion. I do like some progressive rock like Van der Graaf Generator, Still Life is one of my favourite albuns ever. Here's a song for you! :)


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    Russian music?

    You've not heard nothing till you've heard throat music!

    Here is a likely couple from Tuva doing a bit of throat singing:



    That's the place where the Evil One caught his pike the other month, though in the above clip you can see some folk doing some mind-numbing, in my opinion, ice-hole fishing.

    And here's another Tuvan throat singing troubadour:

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    Thanks, lots of music to discover here!
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    I am in awe!
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    Here is a song by Smyslovye Gallyutsinatsii that it's easy to like:



    I found Smyslovye Gallyutsinatsii on this site of podcasts about russian music:

    http://russmus.net/
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    Throat-singing is awesome. One of my favorite albums is 60 Horses in my Herd, by the Tuvan throat-singing group Huun-Huur-Tu. I also saw them live, in Prague in 2001.
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    Pereslegin's music is hard to find. It can be found on Electroshock Records though it may take some time, some samples here: http://www.mp3fiesta.com/ezekiel_5_track1202427/
    Another group I like as long as they don't get too trancey is Goatika.
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    Have you tried Viktor Tsoi and Kino? Very accessible, alternative rock, if you like that type of thing.

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