THE PUSSY RIOT AFFAIR

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    In Verzilov's own words:

    Я, Петр Верзилов, активист группы Война, никогда не являлся и не являюсь продюссером, лидером, организатором, промоутером, спикером или каким-либо иным должностным лицом внутри группы Pussy Riot, которая является анонимным панк-феминистским коллективом, не допускающим никаких публичных ролей за пределами тех, что против воли участниц Pussy Riot возникли благодаря аресту Кати, Нади и Маши.

    Попытки представить какие-либо публичные роли внутри Pussy Riot означает стремление игнорировать и дискредитировать идеологию женского панк-феминистского коллектива, в котором кроме тех участниц, что были раскрыты благодаря правоохранительным органам нет никаких публичных ролей для лиц женского, а тем более мужского пола.

    Source: Radio Moscow Echo, 5th October 2012

    Translation:

    I, Petr Verzilov, a Voina group activist, have never appeared as and am not a producer, leader, organizer, promoter, speaker or any other official within the group Pussy Riot, which is an anonymous punk-feminist collective that does not not allow any public role for the actions of those who have appeared as a result of the arrest of Katya, Nadya and Masha, which actions are contrary to the wishes of Pussy Riot members.

    Attempts to provide any public role within Pussy Riot are construed as an effort to ignore and discredit the ideology of the female punk-feminist collective, which, apart from those members that law enforcement agencies have uncovered, has no public role for women to play and least of all for males.

    End of translation

    So what role is Verzilov playing now?

    The distraught husband?

    He is not a member of Pizda Riot; nor is he, for that matter, a member of Voina.

    Here's what Voina thinks of Petr Verzilov (WARNING! NOT SUITABLE FOR PERSONS OF A SENSITIVE NATURE):

    Провокатор Петр Верзилов: предательства, мошенничества, плагиат

    (Provocateur Petr Verzilov: a traitor, a fraud, a plagiarist)

    Could it be that Verzilov was recruited during his Canadian residency?

    Could Pete the Pedo really be working for "the other side"?

    Fast backtrack to Toronto circa 2002:

    "Hey Joe! We got this dumb Russian kid arrested for throwing snowballs at a cop. Seems to think he's some kind of artist-revolutionary. D'ya think the idiot could be of any use?"
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    Кто здесь власть? Петр Верзилов (Толоконников)

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    From KP: Толоконникова пожаловалась уже и на соседок по колонии
    (Tolokonnikova has complained about her fellow inmates at the colony)

    Part translation

    “Tolokonnikova has written about them, and in the colony they immediately began questioning prisoners. During initial inquiries, Nadezhda herself was isolated in solitary confinement. Amongst those who have allegedly threatened her is another infamous prisoner: Yevgenia Khasis. Although, according to her, she would not have been able to exert any pressure on the punk quartet member, as she is located in another section of the colony and has not seen Tolokonnikova for a few months. In the colony, the ‘activity’ of the punk singer has been looked upon negatively – and that is putting it mildly. According to human rights activist Alexei Baranovsky, ‘…people are being called in for questioning in the evening instead of their ‘free time’, which is what is usually done, and these people may have more serious problems because of this statement’.

    “It also might happen that similar problems may arise for the complainant herself. If the investigators do not find evidence of threats, a libel case can be brought against the Pussy Riot member herself. “



    Yevgenia Khasis is a double murderess.


    Here is a blog interview with Khasis, one whom Tolokonnikova has accused of threatening her:

    Translation

    Prisoner Yevgenia Khasis on Tolokonnikova ...

    September 26th, 17:00

    "She has no authority here!"

    Human rights activist Alex Baranowski spoke with Yevgenia Khasis - one of the prisoners in the Mordovia women's prison Number 14, in which Nadezhda Tolokonnikova is serving a sentence ...
    The difference between the two inmates is that Tolokonnikova should go free in six months , wherease Khasis will be free only in 2027. She was accused of complicity in the murder of the lawyer Markelov, though her guilt she has never confessed, writes kp.ru
    - Yevgenia, can you tell me what's going on in the colony in relation to all the events associated with Nadezhda Tolokonnikova?

    - I can tell you, but I think that it is unlikely to appeal to the liberal community and the people who support Nadia. As regards the fact that Nadia’s position in the colony is, to say the least, exceptional: this has been said many times in the press. All of her demands and wishes for the way the administration treats her have been implemented. That is to say that everything as regards the way Nadia lives here was quite good when compared to how all the other ...

    - And how are all the other prisoners treated?

    - Quietly. Like ... well I’ve found a little niche for myself, which is the smart thing to do. But what use are we for anything? Nothing. The rest just soldier on under the regime: they play along with meeting yet another commission and going for nice little walks in threesomes and so on. And then all of a sudden, like a bolt from the blue, Tolokonnikova, whose life under the regime is pretty good, goes on hunger strike, refuses to go to work and makes demands on behalf of all the prisoners. This would be justified if, as a result of this, she, having been authorized by the prisoners, then could implement her authority over the prisoners, over the entire colony, or at least her section of it, her authority being based on the fact that all the prisoners had confirmed her concerns and demands. But no one has come out and done so.

    - Why?

    - Because, firstly, she has no authority here, and secondly, come spring Nadia will leave here along with all the media people and human rights activists, and we shall stay here to live as before ... Nadia is now behaving exactly in the style of that community from which she came to prison. She is behaving like a contemporary artist, a creator of modern art that no one but the creator understands or accepts. Well, just picture the scene: a crazy-eyed young girl grabs your mattress for no apparent reason whatsoever and starts running around the barracks, shouting: "Women, I'll save you! Women! I am for you!" And that’s with the literal meaning of the word. The women just laugh at all of this and close their doors so that she doesn’t interfere with their housekeeping, but she continues to run around. The convicts don’t want any help from Nadezhda, who seems to want to help them. They have no need for such a protector of their rights. But Nadia knows all about this. And she realizes that if there is a problem here behind the barbed wire, then it has to be addressed here silently as well as outside. There are also rules about how to live and survive outside as well. But she dumped them all, not in order to solve the problems of prisoners in a colony, but purely for the sake of creating a scandal for those outside and for external agencies.

    - Are internal problems taking place, about which Tolokonnikova writes in her letter?

    - Life in prison is difficult. It's not easy. Yes, there are problems. There are moments that many would like to change - yes. There are domestic and regime issues that we would like to improve - yes. But there are such moments and issues that everyone experiences outside when one is free, only the world around us is at times smaller and is limited by a fence. It's not all easy and simple, but in general we can adapt without degrading ourselves or losing dignity; by finding mechanisms through which many problems may be solved, and there are many such problems, including the usual every day ones.

    - How, in your opinion, will the situation further develop?

    - Well, it has to be determined whether there were any violations. Everybody is smiling at one another now, and journalists are arriving so as to take a look at little Nadia. She will give an interview after they have been here, the outcome of which will be that we are all "dumb slaves" and helpless animals who obey the creative excesses of the administration, and that Nadezhda is the ray of light who was trying to save us all. As a result, Tolokno will have updated her image and the colony will just go on living its life. That is all so obvious. But little Nada, will we have had anything to do with all of this?

    - How does Tolokonnikova relate to this scandal that has arisen?

    - I think Nadia would have been happy if her claims had been rejected. Judging by her condition, by the way the colony is busying itself around her. It seems to me that she is not very happy that she has become the object of intense scrutiny by the prison administration and the Federal Penitentiary Service of Mordovia. She would rather have just wanted to quietly see out her six months and get back to her daughter. And I personally do not understand why people close to her want to squeeze her in this vice-like situation. Has no one ever come out with the idea that Nadia Tolokonnikova is not a brand, but a living person? Verzilov and company work on the Internet with all this hype about something that is actually situated here. She's like a foreign body that is trying here - in the real world regime of barbed wire and guards - to live by the laws of virtual reality. On the one hand , it's ridiculous for us; but on the other hand, I want to cry , because I feel so sorry for her…

    - Do all these events reflect on you personally?

    - On me as well as on all the others. Tomorrow will arrive journalists and representatives of the Presidential Council on Human Rights. The arrival of the guests is being prepared for, we are are preparing for the arrival of guests; we are putting ourselves on our best behaviour and all around our world is being put in order while we live under the rules of the system.

    PS The information war has just now begun to unfold. We are waiting for a response from Nadia.

    End of translation
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    Here’s the full Khasis story from KP: Евгения Хасис: толоконные страсти (Yevgenia Khasis: Tolokonnikova’s Passions)


    Part of the KP published letter from Khasis in which she describes her discussions with Saint Nadezhda of the Imprisoned Women:

    “Nadia said she needed an uprising, and I believe that the consequences of a ‘rebellion for the sake of someone’s public relations and for another political provocation’ cannot be justified or allowed. The prisoners who may be affected by these actions are real people: they are not Internet accounts; they are not fantasies made up by dreamer bloggers: waiting for them are their elderly mothers, their young children, parents and friends. They want to go home; they want to quietly serve their sentences in normal conditions, but not in terms of endless inspections, provocation and blown up scandals that lead to nothing. These are ordinary women; they do not want to be part of the opposition movement and porn art. That is their right . But it is unacceptable calling upon them to do so or, even worse, forcing them to do this by means of provocations, statements, complaints, threats to prosecute on trumped up charges. It is a political game, and as a result each will inevitably be taken as personally responsible. At that time we were unable to agree. Nadia stood her ground: “The worse the better”; I spit on the victim; I spit at the truth; the end justifies the means: a change of political power. We stopped talking to each other.

    And here is the latest way in which Nadia has stepped out of line: she made-up charges of threats to her life, ostensibly from other prisoners. What for? In order to prolong her finest hour in the media? I do not need to stand up for the administration of the colony, I am a convicted person who has repeatedly banged her fist on the administrative tables. I have been an offender against the prison regime, sitting in solitary confinement; I am a freedom-loving nationalist and a stubborn person of a type that nobody has ever seen here before. I have my own opinion and my own position, which I have a right to have – no less than Tolokonnikova has. That now works on Nadia mostly as though it were a mockery of the way she imagines human rights. She imagines herself as a saviour and defender of the rights of convicts. So Nadia launched her attack: salvation through public relations that nobody had asked for.

    If the Internet is now full of the myth that here in the Gulag there have been human sacrifices against which Nadia has rebelled (Oh, how clever of her! Oh, how brave!), the reality is that Nadia is securely accommodated in a separate room with a heater, a fridge, a TV, a radio and other amenities; Nadia does not care what’s going on behind the door of her “suites” with the rest of the prisoners that have not attracted the attention of the world media. Nadia accuses people that refute her words about the threats and who did not, together with the administration, approve of her words; Nadia has written about only 10 convicts allegedly threatening her with murder, slaughter, and physical punishment in the event of non-compliance with the requirements of the administration. She wrote a letter about people who are waiting at home; about people who now face at best disciplinary action – including me. A price is going to paid for your public relations, Nadia.”
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    Here's a translation of the full letter written by Yevgenia Khasis to KP:

    I met Nadezhda about a year ago when she arrived at the colony to serve the sentence handed down to her by the court. Despite the differences between our ideological views, I wanted to become acquainted, and there were reasons for my doing so. Firstly, it is difficult to find a person here who is familiar with the socio-political conditions of our society, and even more so with its features in terms of "sovereign democracy". I have long been isolated from this activity, and it was interesting to hear the news, to hear an opinion, including the opinion of someone with left-liberal views. Secondly, it was interesting to delve into the specifics and methods of the opposition struggle. It was interesting to hear the motives and the goals of the so-called punk prayer that had rocked the entire country. But not only did I have questions to put to her: I for my part was not against her satisfying her curiosity about me, believing that she and her sympathizers had every right to do so.

    Living in different prison sections, we used to meet in the convict recreation areas – in the library or in the convicts’ “club”. I invited her into the temple with the rights of an assistant bell-ringer. I shan’t forget how our conversation followed the regular channel of intelligent small talk and debate. In those matters where we could not reach agreement, we agreed on our own default position, each remaining convinced of her point of view. Knowing of the women prisoners’ attitude towards her through the way they gossiped and gossiped about her, and after reading the news reports, where there were details of that moment that had moved her away from perverted pornographic “events” and had turned her into a “star” because of a "punk prayer" in the Christ the Saviour Cathedral, I asked Nadia in a comradely fashion whether she had had conflicts within her prison workgroup. I was truly worried that the public hostility and condemnation of her would spill over into the prison colony and that there would be tension between her and the prisoners. However, Nadezhda assured me that she was doing well, that there was no conflict and that she felt that there were was nothing negative in the way she was being treated by any of the prisoners or by the administration.

    After her parole judgment, Nadia suddenly began making claims that her rights were being violated, that the administration was prejudiced towards her, that the prison regulations were poorly observed and so on. She defended her actions by saying that she considered it right and proper to use her incarceration as a means of discrediting the government, that the role of the opposition dictated that she should adopt such behaviour and that the more any dispute or information concerning the establishment was blown up out of proportion, which establishment is part of the overall state system, then the faster we should be able to shake the foundations of the existing power structure and overthrow the incumbent president. My views are no less at odds with hers as regards my not liking the state very much, but the way I see changes in the reform of the political system is that they should lead to the establishment and strengthening of democratic institutions and mechanisms. I do not share her opinion as regards subversive activities and those aimed at the undermining, disruption and destruction of the existing mechanisms for carrying out the operation of our state. I do not want revolutions, victims and the collapse of the country. I can see how destroying, and not reforming, might result in the burial beneath the ruins of the state of thousands of people, citizens, the people – our people, the nation, the country that I love.

    Nadia said she needed an uprising, and I believe that the consequences of a “rebellion for the sake of someone’s public relations and for another political provocation” cannot be justified or allowed. The prisoners who may be affected by these actions are real people: they are not Internet accounts; they are not fantasies made up by dreamer bloggers: waiting for them are their elderly mothers, their young children, parents and friends. They want to go home; they want to quietly serve their sentences in normal conditions, but not in terms of endless inspections, provocation and blown up scandals that lead to nothing. These are ordinary women; they do not want to be part of the opposition movement and porn art. That is their right. It is unacceptable calling upon them to do so or, even worse, forcing them to do this by means of provocations, statements, complaints, and threats to prosecute on trumped up charges. It is a political game, and as a result each will inevitably be taken as personally responsible. At that time we were unable to agree. Nadia stood her ground: “The worse the better”; I spit on the victim; I spit at the truth; the end justifies the means: a change of political power. We stopped talking to each other.

    And here is the latest way in which Nadia has stepped out of line: she made-up charges concerning threats to her life, ostensibly from other prisoners. What for? In order to prolong her finest hour in the media? I have no reason for supporting the colony administration: I am a convicted person who has repeatedly banged her fist on the administrative tables. I have been an offender against the prison regime, sitting in solitary confinement; I am a freedom-loving nationalist and a stubborn person of a type that nobody has ever seen here before. I have my own opinion and my own position, which I have a right to have – no less than Tolokonnikova has. That now works on Nadia mostly as though it were a mockery of the way she imagines human rights. She imagines herself as a saviour and defender of the rights of convicts. So Nadia launched her attack: salvation through public relations that nobody had asked for.

    If the Internet is now full of the myth that we have here a Gulag in which humans are sacrificed and against which Nadia has rebelled (Oh, how clever of her! Oh, how brave!), the reality is that Nadia is securely accommodated in a separate room with a heater, a fridge, a TV, a radio and other amenities; Nadia does not care what’s going on behind the door of her “suites” with the rest of the prisoners that have not attracted the attention of the world media. Nadia accuses people that refute her words about the threats and who did not, together with the administration, approve of her words; Nadia has written about 10 persons amongst the convicts alone who have allegedly been threatening her with murder, slaughter, and physical punishment in the event of non-compliance with the administrative demands. She wrote a statement about people whom others are waiting for back home; she wrote about people who, myself included, face at best disciplinary action. A price is going to paid for your public relations, Nadia. That’s the way things are done in Russia.
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    A picture is worth a thousand words?

    From today's Washington Moscow Times, an Associated Press photograph with a subscript that reads: "A demonstrator clutching a portrait of Pussy Riot member Nadezhda Tolokonnikova at a protest in Moscow".


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    One demonstrator - six photojournalists.

    According to this Moskovsky Komsomolets video clip there were also at least 3 (THREE!!!) other demonstrators there.

    I thought freedom of speech did not exist in the Evil Empire and non-sanctioned assembly results in those assembled being "beaten to a pulp" by "brutal" Russian riot cops.

    The letters ФСИН РФ stand for Федеральная служба исполнения наказаний Российской Федерации - The Russian Federal Penitentiary Service.

    One protester has a placard, on which it reads: "Convicts are not slaves".

    I've got news for you mister, to all intents and purposes they are - even in the "free" West.

    In 1985 I earned £1.25 (US$2) a week as a guest of Her Majesty - and I was lucky! Being given work in a British prison is considered a privilege, otherwise you get banged up for 22 hours a day.

    Another of the protesters looks very much like Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.

    I wonder where they dug him up from?

    He died just over 5 years ago - didn't he?

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    If he was alive, I have no doubt what he would say about the Pussy Riot affair.
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    Live this evening (September 30th, 2013) on TV channel Rossiya 1.

    The Princes of the Gulag is shown being interviewed in the colony last month (August 2013). She looks in remarkably fine fettle for one who says that life there for her and her fellow inmates is hell.

    Two recently released prisoners from the same colony where Tolokonnikova is at present incarcerated and who appear on the programme do not seem over fond of the feminist punk rock musician activist. One says that as soon as Princess Nadezhda had arrived at the camp, she announced that she intended to start an uprising. One prison guard says he heard Porky Pete tell his wife to go on hunger strike.

    After watching part of Tolokonnikova's interview in the prison grounds with a TV journalist, one of the invited commentators (a psychologist, I think) to the programme says "That person and the one that wrote that letter are two completely different people!" Later in the programme, after the interviewer has asked Tolokonnikova if she had being seeking fame through her "actions", and she answers that if they hadn't been arrested they would have continued as before until they had achieved it. The same woman who doubts that Tolokonnikova wrote the letter (and if she did, should she then be considered schizophrenic?) then says that Nadezhda Tolokonnikova's whole life has been one performance and that her life in prison is just a continuation of her life's performances: "Provocation is their profession and they are even continuing their performances in the colony."

    The TV programme then shows Princess T's interview with the prison administration after her complaint about bad treatment had been lodged. Her interlocutor says that if she has been put under physical and psychological pressure, then she must be isolated for her own protection.

    She doesn't like that.

    I wonder why? Because in isolation she can't stir up trouble?

    Khasis also appears in an interview and says that Tolokonnikova ran around the place as though she were the "Joan of Arc of Women", saying that she's there to save them and trying to organize an uprising.

    Khasis spoke to KP today saying that the story that Tolokonnikova had been deprived of water was yet another scam. According to Khasis, Tolokonnikova complained that the drinking water in her hospital room water container was too cold and demanded warm water. They took the cold water away and before they returned with warm water, she complained that she had been deprived of drinking water, which Verzilov duly announced to the press.

    She also refused to undress and show doctors the evidence of beatings she claims to have received. Too modest, I suppose. Not too modest to fuck in public though.

    Verzilov is also blathering on about his not being allowed to visit his wife in prison hospital. Interesting, that: few people in the West realize this, I suppose, but in Russia husbands are not even allowed to see their wives when they are in maternity hospitals either - not that I condone this, but those are the rules in Russia.

    One thing that often puzzles me about Tolokonnikova - and her husband too, for that matter - which never seems to get mentioned by the Western media is this: as far as I am aware, neither of them have ever had a job.

    So who or what supports them and their child?

    See:

    Yevgenia Khasis telephone interview with KP: "The Prisoners Don't Want To Be Used As Tolokonnikova's PR"

    Rossiya 1: Interview without Balaclavas.

    And here, from the TV news channel Rossia 24, in "Заключённые не верят в искренность Толоконниковой" (Prisoners do not believe in Tolokonnokova's sincerity), one of the prison staff asks a journalist to question members of the prison princess's work team about what they think of their work tasks and working conditions. One shows him how she has simply to stitch belt loops onto police trousers and another says as regards the content of Tolokonnikova's letter that it's all PR for the convicted Pussy Riot member. And not one of the other prisoners support her claims.

    Tolokonnikova's lawyers have written letter to the United Nations about the prison slavery that Tolokonnikova claims to exist in the colony, albeit that such slavery is hard to discern in the news reports emanating from there.
    Of course, the prisoners, all 900 of them, could all be shit scared of supporting Tolokonnikova's claims and are all extraordinarily competent actresses as well, who can skillfully project the image of content prisoners striving to reform themselves in tolerable conditions.

    There are also some Russians, white ribbonists who post comments to newspapers and Zigfield, of course, in her rants to Moscow Times, that say that all the convicts are lying and have been paid to do so; that their word cannot be trusted because they are convicted prisoners.

    Their heroine Nadezhda is also a convicted prisoner, to be sure; in their opinion, however, Tolokonnikova is not a criminal and is pure and honest and virtuous, wanting only to make the world a better place to live in.

    And all the time, it seems, her Zvengali, Verzilov, hovers around outside the camp.


    Where does he get his funds from?

    Who's looking after their 5-year-old child?

    Here's Tolokonnikova in the video clip below taken after she had been arrested for "performing" in the cathedral. She explains to an investigator her participation in the group action: a protest against the church attitude towards women, namely that women should be allowed on the ambos, the raised area in front of the iconostasis, that it is not sinful for a woman to enter that area; that the church should change with the times. All this is her "feminist" line. And she says her purpose in society is to create an uprising (a mutiny - бунт), to protest. That's her revolutionary line.

    And all the time she has this annoying smirk, this I'm-the-smartest-kid-in-town attitude, this sneering disdain for the person questioning her. She checks him up on his pronunciation of the word "riot" - because she's so smart, you see; she's been to Canada, see, and knows how to say "riot", unlike this boorish investigator - so she talks down to him with barely concealed contempt.

    And remember, this person has never, ever been gainfully employed in her life, which makes me wonder how she can categorize labour. She calls her tasks in prison "slave labour", albeit that she has never done any "normal" labour in her life.

    I wonder what she'd think about doing double shifts of 16 hours under extremely uncomfortable conditions, something that very many people have to do in order to make ends meet? I suppose this pampered bourgeois upstart could never imagine working for a living, what with her being a "progressive" and an "artist" to boot.

    "It's art", she says, "political art" whilst smirking and shaking her head in feigned bewilderment at her interrogator's stupidity in asking her the purpose of the "happenings" that she has participated in.



    Finally, some images of the happy, normal, Nadezhda, with her devoted husband Petr (WARNING! SOME MAY FIND THIS MATERIAL OFFENSIVE):

    Pussy Riot Надежда Толоконникова - судите сами (видео и фото)
    (Pussy Riot Nadezhda Tolokonnikova - judge for yourself [video and photographs])
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    Pizda Riot member Tolokonnikova's hunger strike planned from outside!

    Well, who'd have thought it? I am shocked and amazed!

    Translation:

    The Masyuk Report: there have been breaches of rule in the colony, but the hunger strike had been planned by Tolokonnikova

    Member of the Presidential Human Rights Council (HRC), Elena Masyuk, has confirmed the existence of breaches of labour laws in the colony where Nadezhda Tolokonnikova is serving her sentence. However, the human rights official considers that the Pussy Riot band member's hunger strike had been planned outside the colony.

    "The hunger strike of convict Tolokonnikova was pre-planned, organized and coordinated from outside, as was information support on the Internet and in the media. Those involved in these activities include Tolokonnikova's husband, Petr Verzilov, the lawyer Irina Khrunova, and chairman of the Interregional Association of the Human Rights Organization "Agora", Pavel Chikov", says Elena Masyuk's report, which is at the disposal of ITAR -TASS.

    However, the report has noted that in the ИК -14
    [corrective colony-14] of the Republic of Mordovia, as in many other Russian women's prisons, there is a "well-established, voluntary-compulsory system for the provision of a non-stop of labour supply during a 12 -16- hour day, as well as work on Sundays". The level of remuneration for the 16 -hour day is low. In this regard, Masyuk has to take measures to stop violations of labour laws.

    A member of the HRC has also concluded that in the colonies there are discipline and order detachments ( SDIP ), which are formed from a number of convicts in order to facilitate the administration of prisoners in that they comply with the prison regulations, even though such disciplinary detachments were abolished by order of the Ministry of Justice in 2010. In the Mordovia colonies such SDIPs form the 3rd Section
    [disciplinary section-ME] to where disgruntled women prisoners are sent to be "educated".

    The report also notes that the living conditions of the prisoners have improved since HRC members visited the colony in December 2012.

    In addition, Masyuk's report recommends that Tolokonnikova be transferred to another team and to an easier job, and that the convict have a medical examination as well.

    Members of the Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights, Maria Kannabikh and Elena Masyuk, visited the colony in order to check it out after Nadezhda Tolokonnikova had started a hunger strike there on September 23, saying that her life was under threat. The prisoner also complained of the gross violation of labour laws by the prison administration.

    End of translation

    So the little dear is going to be allocated to lighter work duties because her dainty, bourgeois body cannot manage the tasks set her? The other prisoners, mostly proles I should think, keep on slogging away.

    Hardly surprising that the pampered bourgeois brat cannot keep up with the rest: she's never done a day's work in her life!

    If they have evidence that Verzilov and others organized the hunger strike, surely these outside controllers of the amazingly conceited Tolokonnikova should be arrested for an attempt to incite a prison mutiny?
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    And she's stopped, according to ITAR-TASS.

    So Porky Pete was wrong.

    Shes still at ИК-14, where, according to Western hysterics such as the Guardian editorial board and the loathsome Zigfield, women are routinely tortured.

    On Putin's orders, of course.
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    I am hearing conflicting stories about whether or Tolokonnikova has now abandoned her hunger strike.

    This whole episode seems to have provoked dissension within the Presidential Human Rights Council with several members complaining about a conflict of interest in that one of the members of the inspection team from the Presidential Human Rights Council who inspected the prison where Tolokonnikova is being held has turned out to be the husband of Khrunova who is Tolokonnikova’s lawyer.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/895625.html

    I am not sure this does actually create a conflict of interest but perhaps it would have been better if he had not been involved in the inspection at all. He for his part obviously denies a conflict of interest and claims that the inspection team from the Presidential Human Rights Council largely upheld Tolokonnikova’s complaint. He also refers to an anti Tolokonnikova “pro authorities” faction amongst the prisoners, which presumably is intended to include Khasis.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/897397.html

    By contrast a different member of the Presidential Human Rights Council all but accuses Khrunova and her husband of instigating the whole hunger strike.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/897168.html

    That of course is what Khasis also says.

    The overall conclusion of the inspection team is that whilst Tolokonnikova did have some grounds for complaint this was not a case of over the top brutality by an intentionally cruel prison administration. Certainly it doesn’t come close to torture or anything of that sort. Bluntly it seems to me more like the typical oppressive treatment that happens much of the time in most prisons around the world.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/896356.html

    If the hunger strike was a political stunt (and Khasis’s comments strongly suggest it was) then it failed. I think public opinion in Russia has lost interest in Pussy Riot affair and sympathy for Tolokonnikova (never very strong) has ebbed away. Outside Russia it is yesterday’s story. There was a brief flurry of interest when the story first broke but it has largely died away.
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    This is an amazingly articulate letter.

    I have no time for Yevgenia Khasis. What she did was deplorable. She comes across as a thoroughly manipulative and callous person. However there is no doubt that she is also highly intelligent. I am trying to think of any other country where two such extraordinary persons as Khasis and Tolokonnikova would meet each other in prison and engage with each other in earnest debates on ideological questions and discussions about the future of their country and about "What is to be Done?" France? Possibly but less likely now than 30 years ago. Germany the same. Certainly not Britain or the US.
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    Yet here, in its English version, ITAR-TASS categorically states the the feminist punk-rock musician, political activist and freedom fighter has stopped her hunger strike:

    Tolokonnikova stops hunger strike.

    The strange workings of Ilya Ponomarev's mind and that of Tolokonnikova's lawyer - strange for me, at least - are revealed in this MK article about the Gulag Princess's cessation of her hunger strike, where it states:

    ...во вторник в своем Твиттере депутат Илья Пономарев сообщил, что объявившая голодовку участница группы Pussi Riot Надежда Толоконникова была вынуждена прекратить акцию по состоянию здоровья.

    Я очень рада, что она пошла на этот шаг, у меня были серьезные опасения, что это кончится очень плохо для ее здоровья, - рассказала «МК» адвокат Ирина Хрунова, - не всякий человек может выдержать многодневное голодание.

    [On Tuesday (State Duma) deputy Ilya Ponomarev stated on his Twitter that Pussy Riot group member Nadezhda Tolokonnikova had been forced through health reasons to cease the hunger strike that she had declared to undertake.

    "I am very glad that she has taken this step, I had serious concerns that this would end very badly for her health", lawyer Irina Khrunova the told 'MK', "not every person can endure many days starvation."]

    Quite! If one doesn't eat, one dies.

    Death is an extremely unhealthy situation.

    Or do they have in mind that the renowned musician artist never had any intention to end her life through hunger if her demands were not met? Does Khrunova mean by the word голодание "fasting"? Was the freedom fighter simply on a starvation diet and had no intention of ending her life in protest?
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    From yesterday's (01.10.2013) Novaya Gazeta:

    «Довожу до Вашего сведения, что 23.09.2013 года с 11 часов 30 минут до 11 часов 45 минут в дежурной части ИК-14 мною было осуществлено прослушивание телефонных переговоров осужденной Толоконниковой Надежды Андреевны 1985 г.р., заказанные ее мужем гр. Верзиловым П.Ю. через ФСИН.

    В ходе разговора гр. Верзилов П.Ю. рекомендовал ос. Толоконниковой Н.А. начать голодовку, так как информация о начале ею голодовки выложена в сети Интернет на сайте «Лента. ру» в 11 часов 01 мин. Спрашивал ее, как она подготовилась к голодовке, сколько поела вечером и давал рекомендации, как вести себя, выдвигать требования о недовольствах режима содержания и условиях работы в ИК, а также о том, что ей угрожают» — это текст рапорта начальника оперативного отдела ИК-14 майора внутренней службы С.В. Жаткиной на имя начальника ФКУ ИК-14 УФСИН России по РМ полковника внутренней службы А.Г.Кулагина от 23.09.2013 г.

    ["I bring to your attention that on 23.09.2013 from 11:30 until 11:45 minutes whilst on duty at Penal Colony-14 there was made available to me wiretapping through which I heard telephone conversations with the convict Tolokonnikova, Nadezhda Andreevna, born 1985, which had been booked through the Federal Penitentiary Service by her common-law husband, Verzilov, P.Yu.

    During one conversation, citizen Verzilov, P.Yu. recommended that Tolokonnikova, N.A. start a hunger strike because the onset of her hunger strike had been posted on the Internet on the website "Lenta.ru" at 11:01. He asked her how she had been preparing for the hunger strike, how much she had eaten in the evening, and gave advice on how to behave, how to present her demands about grievances under the prison regime and about the working conditions in the prison camp, as well as the fact that she had been threatened" - the text is a report made from 23.09.2013 by the Penal Colony-14 operations chief, S.V. Zhatkin of the internal security service, and addressed to the head of Federal Institution Penal colony Number 14, Colonel A.G.Kulagin of the internal security service.]

    And there's plenty that follows, including interviews with the provocatrix Tolokonnikova.
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    I could not but help notice this morning the absence of any report in the UK Guardian and Independent of Tolokonnikova’s cessation of her hunger strike yesterday, no rapturous joy over the news that their heroine has stepped back from the brink, whereas only one week ago there were articles in those newspapers, which articles wailed in anguish over the lot of the feminist punk-rock musician and artist and the brutality of the regime under which she now exists in the Evil Empire.

    From Russia Beyond the Headlines: Tolokonnikova's hunger strike planned by outside forces - Human Rights Council

    Up to now (2nd October 2013, 10:10 Moscow time), apart from in the UK, the news of the end of the exhibitionist's latest performance has been reported in newspapers worldwide.

    In the UK, however, although the BBC Russian service reports the end of the hunger strike, once again, no mention of this in the English language pages of the BBC World Service.

    This apparent visceral hatred of Russia and Russians by my fellow countrymen sickens me.

    I think it's about time I apply for Russian citizenship.

    :)
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    Here predictably is an article on Counterpunch which supports Tolokonnikova from a left wing position.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/10/02/russias-new-dissidents/

    What is truly remarkable about this article is the way in which whilst it acknowledges that the sex orgy in the Timiryazev Museum was illegal it entirely fails to so much as mention the "punk prayer" in the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour and the reasons why Tolokonnikova and Alyokhina were convicted or the fact that they are in prison because they broke the law. What is this if not a call for people like Tolokonnikova and Alyokhina to be placed above the law? In any country the basic duty of the authorities is to maintain public order. Demanding that the sort of activity that Tolokonnikova and Alyokhina have engaged it go unpunished is to demand that the Russian authorities abdicate their fundamental responsibility to Russian society to maintain public order. No authorities anywhere in any country would ever agree to that.

    Incidentally the author's claim that fascist and nationalist lawbreakers in Russia invariably go unpunished is not only untrue but is refuted by Tolokonnikova's meetings in prison with none other than Yevgenia Khasis.

    The other interesting point about this article is its somewhat plaintive tone, implicitly acknowledging that opinion even in the west has turned against Pussy Riot. Bluntly I think as people in the west have learnt more about Pussy Riot support for them has waned even in the west. This just isn't the big story it was a year ago.

    PS: An example of the absurdity of this article is that it mentions Stanislav Markelov together with Politkovskaya as someone murdered by "unknown assailants". Not only are Markelov's assailants not unknown but Tolokonnikova has met and had political debates with one of them in prison, to be precise with Yevgenia Khasis. As for Politkovskaya, her alleged assailants are currently on trial.
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    It seems that many of these western progressives must accept certain positions in order to wear their "liberal credentials" proudly on their sleeve - one is to believe all of the EASILY refutable garbage about "Putin's Russia." - and I can tell you from experience that these people do NOT like to be refuted. What I find incredibly ironic is that many of the so-called liberal sites who have spilled tons of digital ink on Pussy Riot either show hostility towards anyone posting the "punk-prayer" literally word for word or they suspend the person posting it! A lady posted it on common dreams.org last week and received dozens of thumbs down from readers and was accused of being (drum-roll.....) an FSB and/or "KGB" agent. Surprisingly, the counter-punch article above is rather tame compared to the garbage we were reading on the "heroic artists" when this all flared up last year and this is probably due to the fact that Count-punch is one of the few progressives sites which has it share of positive Putin/Russia articles as well. A progressive site like common dreams will normally never carry any article that doesn't place Putin in a bad light with their latest obsession now being the detention of the Greenpeace activists who boarded the Russian oil rig in the Arctic........
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