Obama cancels meeting

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  1. Jon Hellevig

    Jon Hellevig Citizen

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    Patrick Armstrong wrote in his newstripe about the
    THE LATEST ANTI-RUSSIA CAMPAIGN. The famous law is actually an amendment which prohibits propaganda of homosexuality among minors”. But already we are told that homosexuality is against the law” and that it’s just like Hitler. Anybody smell an organised campaign here? By the way, American Stoli comes from Latvia. Watch this video; you’ll figure out what’s happening (not what you’ve been told to expect. Warning: it might be a put-up job to manufacture some anti-Russia “evidence”; if so, it backfired.). Also check out this story as an indication that there are – as usual – more nuances than you’re told. While in Moscow, have a Russian Stoli in one of these places.

    The Obama on Leon transcription makes very interesting reading because it is a striking example how totally misinformed Obama is about Russia. In fact the question rises, and I would like to hear your opinions on that, is Obama in actual fact so misinformed or his he actively lying? I believe that the first suggestion holds true. Obama's apparatus runs the biggest spying machine in the world but they cannot even deliver to the president accurate basic intelligence about Russia. (Most likely because they dont want to do it). Let's look at a few quotes from the interview http://hypervocal.com/news/2013/obama-leno/


    - Obama: "Now, part of it is he’s not accustomed to having press conferences where you’ve got a bunch of reporters yelling questions at you." Obama claiming that Putin is not used to taking questions from the free press. Total crap! Putin has 12 years in power been posed more hard questions by the whole international press that the last 3 US presidents together. Remember how he is attacked by the international press on each of his trips. And it is not at all easier at home, remember for example last years 4,5 hours marathon press conference to a mostly hostile audience http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...dimir-putin-holds-a-marathon-news-conference/ And compare that with that staged interview with the fawning Jay Leno itself



    Obama: "And I have no patience for countries that try to treat gays or lesbians or transgender persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them.
    Now, what’s happening in Russia is not unique. When I traveled to Africa, there were some countries that are doing a lot of good things for their people, who we’re working with and helping on development issues, but in some cases have persecuted gays and lesbians." - Here Obama is lyingly consenting to Leno's claim that homosexuality is against the law in Russia. Obama not even objecting to Leno's macabre comparison of Russia with Nazi Germany - Leno; "I mean, this seems like Germany: Let’s round up the Jews, let’s round up the gays, let’s round up the blacks."
  2. AKarlin

    AKarlin Generalissimo Staff Member

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    Oh noes. What will Russia do now that the Anointed One has "no patience" for them?

    Obama is just regurgitating the typical left/liberal universalist tripe that you see at HuffPo, Buzzfeed, or the Guardian.
  3. Moscow Exile

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    Obama is a "big girl's blouse".

    That's what they say where I come from.

    Is that a "homophobic" statement, I wonder?

    :)
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    Is Obama a wimp?

    How it should be done. This way:

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    or this way:

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    Obama and wife:

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    At a White House judo display: "Big girl's blouse"?

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    A "proud ex-KGB spy". Is this the expectation of many Russian citizens as regards how the chief political executive of the largest state in the world should look like:

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    or is this what they would prefer?

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    Volodya as a lad:

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    Young Barack Hussein with chums:

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    Another sack of mendacious shite from Michael Bohm, the Moscow Times opinion page editor: "Why Putin Is Glad That Obama Isn't Coming".

    Commentators blow huge holes in Bohm's argument.

    The Russophobe comments with accusations that Bohm's critics are all useful idiots in the hire of the FSB are bound to follow.

    I wonder who Bohm works for - really works for?
  6. Patrick Armstrong

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    Well, well Jon, so you've finally noticed that Obama doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time but talks anyway. Just from the Leno interview he doesn't know what sports are done at the Winter Olympics or where US ports are.
    Here, from years ago is my personal favourite example. How many things does he get wrong? and does his original point make any sense at all?



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    This is only a surprise to you because the MSM covers up for him
    EG

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/08/08/ap-tried-to-cover-up-obamas-geography-gaffe/

    AS to briefings, check his schedule. Pretty thin.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/complete/2013-W32
  7. Moscow Exile

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    I worked with someone who hailed from the state of Illinois, from a farming area. He's been resident in Russia for many years and has a Russian wife and family. He used to tell me how corrupt Illinois and Chicago politics are. But you'd never guess that such corruption exists in the "free world" if you fell for the repeated ad nauseam MSM reports about Russia being one of the most politically corrupt places in the world.

    But then you chance upon educated farm boys from Illinois or articles such as this that unexpectedly turn up: "Illinois Governors In Prison: 4 Of State's Last Governors Were Convicted, Imprisoned".

    Obama became an Illinois state senator in 1997, then a federal senator in 2005 and US President in 2009.

    Here's Barak inadvertently telling lies to someone who he thinks is his poodle:



    An exchange between the US and Russian presidents during a March 2012 meeting in Seoul, South Korea, which was picked up by microphone without either leader apparently knowing. At the time Medvedev was getting ready to step down from his presidential term of office in May the following year. He said he would pass on Obama's message to his successor Vladimir Putin.

    Obama says: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defence, this, this can be solved but it's important for him [Putin] to give me space."

    Medvedev replies: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you …"

    Obama retorts: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

    Lapdog: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

    Exit Obama chuckling to himself and Medvedev wagging his little tail.

    I wonder if Medvedev is still employed in this way running errands for his master?
  8. Patrick Armstrong

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    Can't guanatee the authenticity of this photo
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    Illinois (where I live) is so corrupt it's hilarious. The city of Chicago is run by a corrupt Democratic machine, and the state of Illinois is run by a corrupt Republican machine. It's been that way for ages.

    I visited Venice, and observed that the Doge's palace has the prison built right into the palace. I thought that would be a good innovation for the IL governor's mansion: the governor could go straight to prison after finishing his term, rather than taking a circuitous route through the court system.
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    Dear Jon,

    It is impossible that Obama believes that Putin does not field difficult questions in interviews and news conferences because he has attended joint news conferences with Putin. There was a particularly difficult one following the G20 summit last year when after a bitter private argument over Syria many noted the suppressed anger at the subsequent news conference between the two. Obama was of course also present at the G8 summit here in Britain in June when Putin again had to handle difficult news conferences including a joint news conference with Cameron during which he made his now famous comment about the British supporting cannibals in Syria and people who murder British soldiers in London streets.

    Though it pains me to say this about the President of the US on this question at least Obama was simply lying.

    Having said that, I think what you say is also true, which is that Obama does not know or understand Russia very well or indeed at all. For proof of that consider his disastrous policy during his first term of trying to support Medvedev against Putin. That was based on a total misunderstanding of the nature of the relationship between Medvedev and Putin and of the dynamic of Russian domestic politics. Personally I think the idea of Medvedev as a liberal is itself a misconception but staking the whole future of the reset on Medvedev was anyway a crazy idea and one which has done lasting damage to the relationship between Putin and Obama.

    Unfortunately this ignorance or inability to understand Russia is widely shared in the west and within the intelligence community. As we both know it is always easy to find the evidence you are looking for to support your own point of view. If you have convinced yourself that Russia is a dictatorship it is not difficult to cherry pick evidence that appears to confirm it and to disregard the rest.
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    Obama doesn't speak Russian but Volodya can speak English!

    And no teleprompter!!!

    (Note how CNN has to insert the usual lie about the then Russian prime minister, namely that he was a former "KGB spy".)



    Der russische Präsident kann auch Deutsch!

    (He begins to speak German at 2:40)

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    Dear Patrick,

    I have just watched the video of the incident on Palace Square.

    I have to say that it does look to me like a staged provocation. Why were so many media people there for one thing? Presumably someone tipped them off that something would happen.

    As you say, it was a provocation that backfired, which is why we have not heard anything about it. Had it succeeded we would have had film of what happened appearing on every news channel.

    Of course the ultimate irony in what was obviously an attempt to provoke the paratroopers on what is presumably their holiday is that at the time of the 2011/2012 winter protests there was an attempt to present the paratroopers as swinging against Putin. Remember the video of the "paratroopers" singing anti Putin lyrics as they strummed away on their guitars? Presumably that idea has been dropped.
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    It's impossible to be an expert in everything, which is why the most important quality in a POTUS is to choose quality advisors. Instead, Obama picked Mike McFuck, as stupid as he is incompetent, to be his Russia specialist. You have that embarrassing bumbling idiot to thank for the "place all chips on Medvedev" strategy that horribly backfired.
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    I still find it mind boggling that McFaul was not recalled shortly after his arrival here. As a diplomat the man is a walking disaster.
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    If Spider Man had a fight with Batman, who would win? My kids always said Spider Man would, but I'm not so sure.

    :)
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    Obama spouted much bullshit in his press conference, including that the Russian Olympic team would be weaker without homosexuals on it. And how, pray tell, does he know there are no such people on the team?

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