Evaluating Putin's rule from a Russian national interest perspective

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  1. john smith

    john smith Collegiate Registrar (14th class)

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    With all the criticism we hear about Putin in the west and some in Russia they seem to derive basically from issues that go against western interests like the war in Chechnya, securing a unified state, securing Russian pipelines to Europe and other more traditional issues like human rights, corruption, political process, etc despite supporting the most authoritarian regimes in the region and around the world like Azerbaijan and Saudi Arabia.

    Problem with Russian commentators is that they do not give any serious criticism/evaluation of Putin for Russia's short and long term interest's.

    Here are some of the negative points of the Putin regime. ( I will edit and cover the problems I have with each later).

    1) Russia's war on terror.

    2) Creating a stable and flexible political system

    3) Domestic and foreign policy

    4) Infrastructure

    5) Economy

    6) Corruption

    7) Immigration

    8) PR
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    To my mind, the greatest of these shortcomings is Russia's poor PR machine, which repeatedly cedes the battlefield to western-based Russophobes in the English-speaking sphere. This is to an extent understandable, as the dominant language in Russia is not English, and in Russian the daily kick in the slats - mostly from the USA and UK - has much less effect. But Russia must recognize that a huge proportion of the world speaks English, and that it takes a daily shitkicking in the English-speaking media which is largely undefended.

    I see Putin's editorial in the New York Times as a beginning of a new policy in this regard, and the slobbering over-reaction to it in some quarters as a measure of how powerfully those interests want the old way to continue, in which the Anglosphere just kicks Russia and gets no reaction.

    It should also be borne in mind that a powerful English-speaking PR machine would bring Putin little benefit at home, because most of his electorate cannot read or speak it well enough to follow it. Therefore such an initiative would be mostly free of political motivation, and any uptick in this sort of activity would suggest Russia genuinely wants to be understood rather than Putin scoring cheap political points.
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    Totally agree! And the power of the English language as a propaganda organ has certainly not gone unnoticed by some, though, alas, not in government circles: witness how Vera the Lesboliberterianka, who has a tiny following in Russia, has started printing out her thoughts in English, as pointed out very recently in the NGO thread by Russian Truth.
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    Infrastructure, economy and corruption seem closely related for conservative Russians to whom I speak. They particularly complain about inflation, which has gone down greatly but nevertheless, in small towns near the Volga, the main trend during the Putin era has been falling living standards. Thus the Pugachaev bunt in a week when I was at the dacha of the chairman of the town council of an almost identical town about 70 km South West of Saratov (Pugachaev is 100 km North East). Most over 50's are not impressed by Putin even if they vote for him. My toast to The President of Russia was not accepted. We toasted Russki Narod.
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    Russia has just as bad a deal in French.
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    And whom would these folks prefer to have instead of Putin?
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    john smith Collegiate Registrar (14th class)

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    Putin = Mr Milosevic. At least in regards countering western PR efforts when Bosnians, Croats and Albanians had PR and lobby agencies in the US and finance all the anti-regime elements in Serbia.

    At least Serb bloggers make an effort to combat western propaganda with no resources unlike Russians.

    Pathetic!

    All the points are tied in with each other but yes I agree his PR regime is virtually non-existent and the few effort he has made have been pretty terrible and in some regards counterproductive.

    In the one hand Putin appears to be aggravating the US with thing that have no effect on Russian interests like Snowden, constant bad news reports on Russia Today while saying absolutely nothing about actual things that effect Russian interests like spying, genocide of the Serbs, looting, colonisation and especially terrorism against Russia that is easy to prove that effect the security of Russia as a unified state, stocking ethnic tensions in Russia and the near abroad and installing and propping up authoritarian regimes like the ruling family in Azerbaijan that was installed in a BP/British coup in 93, etc.

    Terrorism is Russia would not have escalated to the level it had if it easily exposed the foreign intelligence ties to Chechen terrorist groups especially

    If they did not need it already the Boston Bombers Uncle Ruslan is the best connection yet to western intelligence and Chechen terrorism with his direct connection to the CIA, USAID and the Benevolence Foundation at least it really would have been if we didn’t know from the US terrorism trial of BF that Russia counter-terrorism agent’s in Russia did not destroy the evidence after 5 years that they could have done a check on the evidence they retrieved from BF offices in Russia with connections to Ruslans Chechen organisation and BF.

    The reason the Putin regime does not do this is because he needs a direct external force to secures his own base/hold on power.
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    Quite so. He's the worst ruler of Russia except for all the others past or potential, except perhaps Brezhnev but he's dead.

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